No definition Hinduism

Topic of halal Vs Jhatka. 

HINO 'friend'-  till date Halal or Jhatka has never been a big issue for any Hindu...... It may have been for other religion but not us. Do u want it to be a big issue for us tomorrow onwards. Will my being a insider or follower of my religion be decided with this..... 

Yours truly- I'm amazed how Hindus have forsaken jhatka in just one and a half generation actually. It's not even about veg or non veg. BTW halal certifying has been extended to non meat products as well ranging from food to cosmetics which is run & controlled by people who aren't beyond reproach and the money goes to extremely questionable entities. Tragic that relatively ahimsaka people  comfortably eschew jhatka and chew on the opposite. What's one's identity if one throws away the fundamentals of one's culture, religion? Learn something from muslims. Most HINOs admire muslims for being so faithful to their beliefs & practices but mock/jettison own religion at the drop of hat. 

HF- I will go with either halal or jhatka without slightest thought..... And still will be hindu on the other side of it..... My way of life and faith doesn't change with this..... And yes pls don't define anyone's hindusim for him.... It can be practiced at many levels.... No one needs to follow a prescription. 

YT- Mock ekadashi, mangal vrata and many other customs  but praise roze. Cool? Femlibs are even worse, they cry hoarse about oppression in Hinduism so rebel against families exploiting the very liberty given to them but become mum when faced with non Hindu people and endorse every practice of theirs as their faith which must be respected. 

As much as Hindus have become HINOs they've become more escapist, hedonist & fake pacifists. 

HF- Culture is not a fixed thing...its not static.... It always changes with time. And Hindus don't appease anyone.... Every where opportunist politicians take advantage to fuel sentiments..... No one follows the way of life as it was 5000 years ago. 

YT- Our ancestors gave their everything, even lives so that all of us retain the आर्ष‌ आर्य civilisation and carry it forward which is reflected still now in our culture religion and tradition but we've ruined it in the name of appeasement in just two three generations  which we fastidiously adhered to for centuries against all odds. Worst is forgetting the trifurcation and the reasons behind it  of country which resulted in the loss of people, territory and sacred geography. 

HF- I have my definition and don't need hints everyday from u to check whether iam hindi or not..... Hinduism has no definition hence u can't define it..... U can practice it at any level of ur comfort...... But I completely agree.. I don't follow or agree with the secularism which was preached to us for 20 years before 2014. 

YT- What's your definition of Hinduism? Trying to follow शास्त्र, धर्मसम्मत परंपरा, धार्मिक  लोकाचार or not doing so? 

I've no definition of my own, though we live in kaliyuga and it's extremely difficult to practice shAstras verbatim they only are the cornerstone of our most ancient and extant civilisation. 

Newer commentaries on ancient ArSha shAstras have been written periodically till 200 years ago per dEsha, kAla, sthAna. मिताक्षरा in North, दायभाग in East and निर्णयसिन्धु in south for example are  fundamental commentaries/precis used by us till overruled by Nehru in parliament via Hindu code bills. 

Most wrong concept is that Hinduism has no definition. 

HF- So? Let me believe what i believe in and let me be comfortable in my Hindu skin... Whatever it may be. 

YT- Hinduism has clear cut definitions, per ancient  स्मृति as explained in the latter three medieval compendiums followed and practiced by us till now even if you're not aware of it. Our inheritance laws, for example,  are a remnant of extant definition  eliminated per law as late as 2005 & 2011. The condescension for own traditions but taking pride in "no definition Hinduism". That's a classic Hindu trait, patience, that's why we still are Hindus. Those who didn't have it, no longer remain Hindus. 

The trait which has crept in almost all of us. We're HINOs more than Hindus, me including. 

Alcohol has no place in our traditions, those wearing our colours & markings should at least stay away from it. 

Drinking alcohol is amongst पञ्च महापाप 👇

here manusmriti 

In another group.. 

Reactive/political Hindu: Another problem with us to be, to act too logical and sensitive,  

It doesn't augurs well, in face of jaahil adversaries. 

Yours truly- We're "jaahil", they're smart with a centuries long plan(s). 

R/P H- Now they seem to be smart, with their tenacious plan of ruling the world with their primitive ideology, and the appear to succeeding in their attempt. 

YT- We neither study our own religion nor theirs. We're at best reactive quasi-political entities. If we'd study our own religion we'd find every answer in it. How to rule, how society should function every answer is there in the sacred manusmriti, then there are many other sacred texts solely dedicated to statecraft viz विदुरनीतिः, पञ्चतंत्र.. 

That's why we're worse than "jaahil". We assault our own foundation only because our enemies tell us do so. 

We're of course taught by vidharmi mlEchChas that our own sacred religion and everything associated with it are bad/evil. Our biggest strengths are attacked the most: Sanskrit, shAstras especially manusmriti, varNa/jAti, brahmins. Don't everybody see a clear pattern?? It's obvious in our face! We instead of rejecting it and counter-attack them surrender without question and parrot their allegations ad nauseum. 

N.B.- in their cult jaahil means one who's a kaafir without knowledge of their one true monogod. 

So it fits us anyways. 

P.S.- Things which help us rule, right, survive and rule again now in last 7000 years cannot be wrong. Vidharmi mlEchChas know what those things are that's why they attack those. Sickening secularism and stupefying socialism are hardly 70 years nascent in comparison to our chronology yet have inflicted so much damage which we fail to understand. 

R/P H- I wish there were more Vedic schools. 

YT- 6 years our own Govt sitting on Swami Ramdev's Vaidika Board proposal. Swami Ramdev is only a reformist Arya Samaji turned Desi Corporate and even such a non traditionalist is not being given a chance, what to say of a proper vaidika curriculum. वैदिक पाठशाला are run under temples but almost all of the big temples which do it are unfortunately closing them down because the sarkar runs and controls them for decades. 

ना नौ मन तेल होगा ना राधा नाचेगी। 

P.S.- HINO horror: they discover that Hinduism is more orthodox & rigid than i$l@m, they cannot just believe it so start mistrusting it and abuse those who merely point out the shAstras, as HINO faith in the "no rules religion" perpetuated by the colonial system is shaken to disbelief.

Whether Drs should earn?

It's totally ethical. Running a clinic, hospital is commercial per law, bijli pani property all charges are to be paid per commercial rates, then salaries of employees is there. In any Govt or Pvt hospital there're half to one dozen employees (प्रत्यक्ष + अप्रत्यक्ष) attending to a patient per day from sweeper to HoD. Then there're costs of sterlisation, airconditioning, laundry, medical gases, electricity back up, transport... endless list plus exigencies. That's why I always recommend people to NOT go to Pvt hospital if they cannot afford or doubt their charges. 

Simple OT gown comes for ₹1000-1500. What to talk of a PPE kit costing ₹350!  No quality check, most are not DGCI or Indian Pharmacopoeia approved. PPE kit must be impermeable to the tiniest of pathogen and it must be certified with criminal liability. Nothing's there in India right now. 

Some say 80% of Drs are unethical.  Because 80% population have negative ethics, Drs or any other professional are a cross section of this society only. 

It's a truth. Casting baseless  aspersions on the most noble profession is a reflection of one's thought process. 

Dr is NOT Bhagavan. 

Consumer Protection Act, Medical Establishment Act, Commercial Establishment Act and many other laws and judicial orders plus executive decisions explicitly say that medicine is NOT philanthropy but a fully commercial activity. Drs only protested it, everybody else sided with the system in this. Now after making medicine a market the Drs are conveniently blamed for the mess created by unethical people. If anybody in any business is criminally liable for astronomical monetary compensation and possible jail without expert opinion for every professional work it's natural he/she would safeguard oneself with money. Especially when medicine is legally considered commercial activity. 

Those who see Pvt Drs as villains must  consult Govt Hospitals only I always recommend. 

There was one old relative in a small town near a state capital who suddenly suffered AMI while in the capital, we were called up at midnight about suggestions, we told her to take her father right away to KGMU or SGPGI  whichever was close by after hiring an ambulance, she said OK, after a while she called again what to do, we said take him to Govt hospital urgent it's already late, she called us after a while and told us she admitted her father in a Pvt hospital as Govt Hospitals not good, we said a medical college is the best place for treatment and expenses are negligible but in Pvt everything with every visit will be billed so after he stabilises you take him to Govt hospital but she didn't pay heed to it and continued while complaining to us everyday that it's costly, we said we warned you to which she said she loves her father and did the best, we said then you must accept your own decision, in the end she was complaining that her lakhs were spent, mean the while we called up every treating Dr in that Hospital everyday to monitor his health and the Drs exempted professional fees for many visits, still she was unhappy saying the Drs loot the patients after her father was saved from death. 

Because the actual cost is always far more than what Govt empanelment schemes compensate to the hospitals. People want state of the art treatment done by most qualified Drs and the State of Art imported machines with branded drugs plus full personal care from latrine to medicine as well as 2 🌟 to 7 🌟 facilities  but want to not pay at all for their lives saved by all of the above, especially the Drs. All such thankless, selfish, ungrateful, rapacious, opportunistic unethical people are actually राक्षस।Most hospitals have not even received for years the dues amounting to even crores per hospital  under empanelment schemes from the authorities. 

Many a times it's being clearly pointed out that the dispensation has made medicine a business, not the Drs, in fact Drs always opposed the legal commercialisation of medicine. Can't blame Drs for the legal commercialisation of medicine by the system itself run by neta, babu, karporet, every one who matters in power. 

Insurance industry in medicine is the SINGLE BIGGEST PROBLEM making healthcare commercialised exponentially. It's the insurance industry which in cahoots with big corporate hospitals and pharma companies run the businesses in the name of healthcare and coerce the small fishes ie individual Pvt Drs to comply else be phased out of competition. Insurance companies have now entered Govt healthcare after gobbling up the corporate/Pvt health sectors. For these megacorps any patient or Dr is a client who help generate flow of money, Drs are not even experts of service providers but mere business generating units which must be ruthlessly replaced or eliminated if not profitable. In any karporet haaspeetal a medical bill has hardly 5-10% as Dr's fee, still the Drs get the blame and not the profiteering non medico owners of carpowrates doing all this in collusion with Pharma, Insurance,  hospitality & many other  industries. Laws for which are all made by Netas Babus. Govt hospitals are unable to get licences and permits for various departments and equipments despite multiple applications through proper channel but tycoons & carpowrates running the medical institutes get all such licences & permits in a jiffy. It's not a mystery who grants these . But blame the Drs!  

Then a patient avoids Govt hospital for lack of facilities and goes to 7 🌟 medicities and then cribs he has been billed in lakhs! What did he expect? Sheraton at the rate of nukkad kee kachori with dharmshala?? Ok, don't come to Govt hospital for all perceived reasons because line long, OPD not everyday, cannot meet favourite Dr.. so go to the neighbourhood friendly Dr to obviate all the above-mentioned troubles and after getting all the requirements met instantly crib about being charged ₹200 extra. Price of life is ₹200 or ₹2000000? It's way more, priceless! Yet, people who waste money on every harmful/useless  thing from samose chaat to pizza burger to cigarettes to alcohol to movies to toxic make up to  weekend parties to running  vehicles and shower repeatedly worthless people with all their monies for these poisons to destroy their health  yet cry hoarse for petty ₹ when their lives are saved by Drs. Life of a human being cannot be weighed even in crores of Rupees. 

For those unsatisfied with Pvt/carpowrate hospitals are welcome in Govt hospitals where the best talents in medicine work against all odds and there's no concern of paying any fee, forget cribbing about ₹200 or ₹2000000 for a precious life saved. 

 माननीय सर्वोच्च न्यायालय के आदेशानुसार किसी भी रोग की जाँच के लिये सभी आवश्यक प्रमाण होने ही चाहिये अन्यथा चिकित्सा को दोषपूर्ण अथवा आपराधिक माना जायेगा और चिकित्सक तथा चिकित्सालय को भारी दण्ड(हत्या की धाराओं के अंतर्गत) दिया जायेगा जिसमें करोड़ों रुपयों की क्षतिपूर्ति से लेकर सश्रम आजीवन कारावास तक दिया जाता है। ऐसे तुच्छ बतगोले साझा करने से पहले कुछ जानकारी भी प्राप्त करें। चिकित्सक की नैदानिक क्षमता अथवा अनुभव और ज्ञान को माननीय न्यायालय में प्रमाण नहीं माना जाता। प्रमाण होता है जाँचें। डॉ के समर्पण/भावना/परिश्रम/कौशल को चिकित्सा नहीं माना जाता है माननीय न्यायालय में क्योंकि वह व्यक्तिपरक है वस्तुनिष्ठ एवं सुसंगत नहीं है, अपितु सुविधाओं और विभिन्न कलपुर्जे/अवयवों के प्रयोग को ही चिकित्सा बताया गया है वैधानिक रूप से। 

The controversial Dr Kunal Saha case 👇

here 

This particular disease happens one in millions, the three Drs who treated were the best and most experienced and did their best to treat the lady, unfortunately she succumbed to the condition in spite of the very best treatment given in the country. Her USA based husband, a Dr himself, registered police case in Kolkata, the three Drs served jail, their medical licences were cancelled, after years of litigation the honourable supreme court decided that the treating Drs were at fault because of 'wrong diagnosis' and must pay astronomical ₹5 Crs+ with interest as compensation to the 'victim'. 

हम सभी कहते ही हैं कि जीवन अमूल्य है, करोड़ों अरबों-खरबों रुपए से भी कहीं अधिक। माननीय सर्वोच्च न्यायालय ने भी करोड़ों में ही बताया। 

अब पैसे नहीं लगने देने हैं प्राणरक्षा के लिये तो सरकारी चिकित्सालयों में आइये। सरकारें, न्यायालय, प्रशासन ही तो वैधानिक रूप से निजी/कारपोरेट चिकित्सालयों को चलवा रहे हैं तो‌ वहाँ प्राणरक्षा हेतु २००, २०००, २००००, २०००००० ₹ लगाना तो हमारी पुरातन मान्यताओं अथवा  माननीय सर्वोच्च न्यायालय के मानदण्डों का दशमांश भी नहीं है।🙏 

यह जो सीजीएचएस, ईसीएचएस आदि सरकारी व्यवस्थाये हैं वह‌ तो स्वयं ही सरकारी कर्मचारियों, सैनिकों, अधिकारियों, न्यायधीशों, नेताओं, पत्रकारों के निजी/कारपोरेट चिकित्सालयों में अद्यतन प्रचलित खर्चे पर चिकित्सा कराने पर ही चल रहे हैं। तो जो यह व्यवस्था सुनिश्चित कर रहे हैं कि सात सितारा निजी चिकित्सालय हों उन्हें दोष न देकर भुक्तभोगी चिकित्सकों को दोष देना तो नितांत खोखलापन है। 

एक चिकित्सालय चलाने के प्रत्यक्ष तथा अप्रत्यक्ष व्यय, बिजली पानी, संसाधन तथा कर्मचारियों के वेतन भत्ते आदि की चर्चा तो तो पता चले कि वह आकाश से नहीं बरसते। तनिक भी संदेह मन में ना रखें, सरकारी सार्वजनिक चिकित्सालयों में ही आयें, आपका सदैव स्वागत है। और अपने लाखों करोड़ों रुपये निजी/कारपोरेट को व्यर्थ सौंपकर नष्ट होने देने तथा निजी / कारपोरेट को धनवान होने से बचायें। 

Whether private/corporate hospitals should be there at all? 👇 

No one condones negligence, every Dr is intolerant to it. Split second decisions in extraordinary circumstances by daring Drs are retrospectively scrutinised by non medico legal system for years and decades आराम से only to declare the Drs guilty for negligence. While judgement in murder, mass murder or child gangrape cases in‌ honourable courts takes not split second but decades and generations and mostly the accused roam free ultimately like Manu Sharma, Shushil Kr, Afroz. Cruel paradox that a filmy fellow's footpath run over case judgement has been reversed by the honourable HC then re-reversed by the most honourable SC ie total three verdicts in same case in three different courts in decades but split second decisions by Drs are negligence. So Drs are villains. 

Of course the cost of healthcare will rise if Drs have to be ready for indemnity in crores in any random case as the law of vicarious liability too has been discontinued with.

see 

11.41 Crs as compensation and jail for Drs 

The unfortunate patient suffered Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis which has 50% case fatality rate. The court case in Kolkata ran for 14 years during which one of the four "accused" Drs died. 

Now the compensation in this Kolkata case claimed was 77 Crores primarily and further 20 Crs were claimed ie total 97 crores. The plea said that the compensation should be calculated on the day of judgement as the amount of money the victim would have earned in USA plus the interest plus the compensatory amount. 

BTW Indian court 7 years ago awarded ₹ 11.41 Crs as the compensation taking into account the victims income in dollars plus interest. 

So in the current scenario Drs must ask for fees as the system decides because daktari is humanitarian selfless service but when punishment is to be given in a grave case where every other patient is known to succumb to the disease still punishment is to be given: the Drs must be jailed too and the compensation should be per the earning capacity of the patient, preferably in $,€,£ at current rates. 

Medicine is the most investment intensive and the least profitable business. Unfortunately it's considered business only by the system. Every licencing, charge, rate, levy, tax, cess is at or above market rate. Upon that medico-legal liabilities are abound and minimum at crores per case. You must be aware that echs, cghs, pmjay compensation to hospital are mostly half or lesser than even the costs incurred by the hospital/doctor per case. That's why I recommend better to use Govt hospital, if one can pull strings even better. 

Altruism and charity were good only till MBBS was the final degree, every doctor had job/earning surplus, there was no consumer act, medico-legal liabilities were not applied: ie till late 80s.. scenario didn't change overnight though.. but those who've joined MBBS in 80s are subjected to later MD SR DM MCh phalana dhimkana making studentship/trainee period over 15 years ie no income and still no job/earning surety plus every other case being a consumer act medico-legal liability. So doctors MUST NOT do charity.

 See here 👉

Govt failure in healthcare  

Private, Corporate Hospitals reflect the failure, not success of our welfare State.

 

There's this alleged picture doing rounds on social media where supposedly a non Govt Hospital has enumerated charges for ICU and various categories of beds for treatment of patients. 

If the system made healthcare a revenue generating  business and allowed Pvt sector to enter as players and even be listed at stock exchange as profit making companies it's all  an unavoidable consequence. 

System is not interfering because it's made all legal and justified. 

It's the duty of govt to make education and health freely available everywhere to everyone, not profit making companies. If the system finds it wrong it should take over the private/corporate hospitals. CGHS, ECHS, Ayushman all are utilised in Pvt/Corpt hospitals. 

If the system saw Pvt/Corpt hospitals as wrong it'd shut them down and not give them empanelment under aforesaid schemes. 

Healthcare & education are  the most stringently governed stream. Still the loopholes are there because politicians own big  hospitals and medical institutes. Coming to IRDA,  insurance companies are allowed to own/run hospitals (Max for eg), pharma companies are allowed to own/run hospitals (Fortis for eg), lawmakers own/run hospitals.. so there's clear conflict of interest everywhere allowed legally. 

कोई यह नहीं पूछता कि देश में इतनी निर्धनता क्यों है? सभी धनवान नहीं हो सकते किन्तु धनवान और निर्धन तो अपवाद होने चाहिये, यहाँ तो दीन हीन ही बाहुल्य में हैं। डॉ का कार्य दीनता उन्मूलन नहीं है, सरकारें हैं जो बाबू और नेता चलाते हैं, उन पर दृष्टि रखना न्यायलयों का कार्य है। डॉ के सिर पर देश की निर्धनता का ठीकरा फोड़ दो, क्या आनंद है?!जनसांख्यिकी के मूलभूत सिद्धांत अनुसार धनवान और निर्धन की संख्या आदर्श रूप से ४ मानक विचलन के बाहर होनी चाहिये, कम से कम ३ मानक विचलन के बाहर, यहाँ तो निर्धन जन ही २ मानक विचलन के भीतर हैं! 

मध्यम वर्ग का तो यह है कि इतने प्रकार के करदान के बाद भी यदि घर में कोई गंभीर अस्वस्थ हो जाये तो सरकारी/धर्मार्थ चिकित्सालयों में निशुल्क अथवा नगण्य व्यय पर भी चिकित्सा कराने में भागदौड़ आदि में ही लाखों खर्च हो कर सड़क पर आने की स्थिति हो जाती है। हमारे शासक सुनिश्चित करें कि ऐसा ना हो। प्रथम बार किसी शासक ने ऐसा किया है आयुष्मान योजना के अंतर्गत यद्यपि यह योजना ऐसा मानकर चलती है कि निजी डॉक्टरों के पास कोई गुप्त अकूत संपत्ति है जिससे वह इसको वहन कर लेंगे। सार्वजनिक चिकित्सालयों की संख्या में बढ़ोतरी तो है नहीं क्योंकि राजस्व वसूली वहाँ से होती नहीं बस व्यय होता है। 

शिक्षा चिकित्सा सभी का निजीकरण लंबे समय से हो रखा है, जो गुणवत्ता वाले शिक्षा संस्थान, चिकित्सालय चला रहे हैं उन निजी संस्थानों, चिकित्सालयों पर राइट टू एजुकेशन ऐक्ट, क्लिनिकल एस्टैब्लिशमेण्ट ऐक्ट आदि नाना दण्डात्मक विधान लगा कर देश की निर्धनता दूर कराई जा रही है, सामाजिक कल्याण किया जा रहा है जबकि सार्वजनिक विद्यालय चिकित्सालय ना तो संख्या में बढ़ाये जा रहे हैं ना गुणवत्ता/सुविधा में क्योंकि राजस्व नहीं होता, व्यय होता है। ऐसा कैसे चलेगा कि सार्वजनिक संस्थानों के पतन के नाम पर निजी संस्थानों को खोलने दिया जाये जिनमें नेताओं बाबुओं के बच्चे परिवार लाभान्वित हों।

Whether Drs should earn? 👇 

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